Saturday, July 11, 2009

Release date changing

Time for another update on the upcoming new version of channels. We want to give you a heads up that we're changing the day on which we'll move all remaining channels over to the new version. Why? Well, July 15th is almost here, and we realized that we still have a few bugs and things left on the to-do list.

Specifically, here's what we plan to do before we roll the new version out to all remaining channels:
  • Fix some browser-specific layout bugs - in particular, IE6 has a few issues right now
  • Allow you to default your channel to "grid" view
  • Allow you to re-order your uploads & playlists
  • Some other small things, including fixes for some of the other bugs you've helped find (such as grid view not always working in IE)
So when's the new date? That part's a little trickier - rather than try to predict it, we'd rather focus our time on taking care of the above list. But we'll announce the new date no less than 2 weeks before it happens - and yes, it's still coming this summer.

Keep the bug reports and feedback coming...

744 comments:

  1. Sounds good to me :)

    I'm loving Beta Channels so far!

    Check mine out:
    www.youtube.com/cooperproductions08

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  2. I kind of figured that you guys wouldn't have enough time to fix everything. I'm glad you aren't trying to push it out before it's ready.

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  3. I still want to be able to post video tto my blogger account!I had switdhed back to the OLD FORMAT SO I CAN.I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE BUG FIXED BEFORE THE ROLL OUT.

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  4. Brian, that wierd bug in my playlist thumbnails is still there. I'm using the latest version of Firefox 3. Any ETA on getting it removed?

    Otherwise, great work. Ignore the haters - the new beta channels are great.

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  5. Oops, forgot to link to my channel.

    www.youtube.com/user/TaurusOxford

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  6. I kinda figured the date would be changed. But it's for the best.

    I'll ask again though, what about an option to randomize/order friends and subscribers?

    And I agree with TaurusOxford, I think the new channels are awesome.

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  7. Musicians need a way to add/edit their albums available for sale, please.

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  8. Kevin - looks great!

    timeofmonth - yeah, we'd like to button things up a bit more before we push it out.

    TaurusOxford - yeah, I see it too (though for me on Mac FF3 now it's not overlapping - it's just a smaller gap). Either way, yeah, that issue's on our list.

    AntneyW - thanks! Yeah, it's for the best. We've got "randomize/order friends, etc" on our wishlist - probably won't happen before the date we move everyone over to new channels, but I hope it's something we can add soon afterwards. It'd be pretty cool.

    (Still need to catch up on the comments in the transparency thread...)

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  9. Alan - yeah, on the list. Thanks!

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  10. Good call on postponing it... ;)

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  11. So far the beta channel has been great. Finally, the transparency option is available!!!

    Today, I reverted back to the old channel just to see what my channel used to look like...

    I noticed two things:
    1) Vlog option is not available :(. I found this option quite useful!)
    2) The "old" channels are much simpler to use in terms of finding your own videos, favorites, etc with the grid view.

    The grid view for videos in my opinion is much better than the scroll view. The scroll view is pretty cool but the grid view loads quicker and allows you to access videos simpler.

    Maybe add an option to choose between grid and scroll. Scroll for users with few videos and grid for users with lots of videos- for example user "machinima" with 3727 videos and counting

    Check out my channel at
    www.youtube.com/TTAHProductions

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  12. yeah. if you really are postponing this, then YEA!!! i tried out the new beta channel design. my over 130+ playlists are not appearing correctly in the right-side scrolling column and are breaking up in the Grid view. really ANNOYING. i tried it. i don't like it. i reverted back to the old channel design. you guys are NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME. very ANNOYING looking at how the new channel is on the screen. i'm sorry, but you guys AIN'T ready. you should have known that JULY 15 was a date that was going to be knocked down.

    i have a video demonstrating what i'm seeing on my macbook using firefox 3.0.11 - it's really annoying. This is the link for the video to see how it FAILS:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIacMghVfuc

    If this link doesn't work, go to my channel iwantgizm0s (that's a number zero 0 in the user name) and look for the "I DON'T LIKE" video.

    http://www.youtube.com/iwantgizm0s

    i also have two other videos on all this nonsense:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT-CKMtUvfg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-yZzqa1AkQ

    thanks for reading, and i really hope that you give us people who like to create Playlists more priority than you have been giving.

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  13. @TryThisAtHome: "Allow you to default your channel to "grid" view"

    I think they realized this already. ;)

    Also, i'm trying some new things with my channel design. Any opinions? www.youtube.com/user/TaurusOxford

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  15. The "Allow to default your channel to grid view" is an excellent idea that will improve drastically the new version's praticability, good catch indeed.

    But, I'll say it once again : a really needed feature is to allow, at least for IE and FireFox, to right-click in a new tab vids, uploads and favourites, just like it's possible to do in the current channel version, and the new channel version's subscribers section.
    Do you work on this as well ? I sincerely hope so, and if you do, thank you in advance for adding this feature.

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  16. There should be an option to replace the new video navigator thing on the top of the page with just a box with the featured video, followed by the playlist box, then the boxes with the uploaded videos and favorites, simmilar to the old channels. In addition to this, there should be a way to get to the seperate view playlist/video/favorites/comments pages from the new video navigator. There also needs to be a way to watch videos in full screen, high quality, and HD on the channels.

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  18. I don't care how many bugs there are, or when they'll be fixed. The old channel didn't have ANY of them. Why "fix" something that isn't broken, Brian? The beta channel itself is a "bug". Yeah, I said it. And so do other people.

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  19. please let us choose which channel type we want

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  20. please let us choose which channel type we want

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  21. Also, my YT username is not japanlover97. Actually, I had no idea that YT user even existed before someone mentioned him/her.

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  22. please let us choose which youtube channel type we want. it is not fair that you are forceing us user to change you are taking the you out of youtube I dont not like the new channel types the old channel types are better

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  23. "Also, my YT username is not japanlover97. Actually, I had no idea that YT user even existed before someone mentioned him/her."

    and you had to mention that here why? Also, if your YT name isn't japanlover97, then why don't you just link us to your real YT channel, and i'll be happy to put my foot in my mouth.

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  24. I knew you guys wasn't going to hit that date two weeks ago. I will advise that in order to save yourself a world of hurt on release day, you add the functionality that allows us to right click and open a video in a separate tab or window from the video player on the channel.

    Making people stay on the channel to watch videos is a radical change to Youtube. It completely changes the way people use the site.

    I hope this isn't the beginning of getting rid of the watch pages. That would be a big mistake. I already see that alot of people are commenting on people's channel about a video instead of on the video because they don't know how to comment on the video from the channel.

    I feel for you on the IE6 issues. IE6 is starting to mess up a lot of people's development. YT might have to force an upgrade one day.

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  25. Omg, i had an idea, one thing i always liked about the original channel is the ability to edit the settings and everything on a seprate page, so would it be possible to leave the capability to edit all of the settings on a seprate page if you wanted to??
    just a thought, seems easier

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  26. I WANT MY CHANNEL TO BE OLD VERSION I HTAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BETA VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND NOW I CANT CHANGE TO NORMAL CAUSE ITS A NEW ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS LAME I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  27. You guys better make this optional. I personally do not like the beta channel AT ALL! Dont force us to change it!

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  28. Glad you are pushing back the release date... With all the bugs still hanging around I would have been shocked that GoogleTube would feel it was "OK" to go with such a buggy interface.

    In fact I'm currently shocked that you are requiring all new accounts made to only have access to the "Beta" designs.

    I'm sure you are getting a slew of new users that might be disappointed with non-functioning features on their channels. Or perhaps they just don't know that certain things are supposed to work that don't!

    ??? Is there a place that says the "proper way" to make a new theme? Am I supposed to make changes 1st, then tag it as a new theme? Or do I select a current theme, tag it "New" rename it and then edit it?

    Kinda confusing... especially since I can't seem to remove themes I don't want anymore.

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  29. I keep one getting a 500 internal server error, when trying to change to beta. My account is mark360videos.

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  30. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this announcement, Brian. :-) I truly feel that this decision to delay the release of the beta channels until most or all of the bugs have been worked out is a very wise one that is definitely in everybody's best interests.
    Peace and many blessings to you and everyone else at YouTube. :-)

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  31. I've seen the "new" channel design and I don't like it a bit. I would much rather stick with the "old" channel design.

    The new one is overbloated with flash and is a pain to work with. It also screws up links, won't allow opening in new tab and so on. I like the channel design just fine WITHOUT changing.

    If you force me to change, you're going to hear about it until you allow me to change back.

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  32. Please explain why you feel the need to make this change mandatory.

    The new design is an ill-conceived eyesore that while it has some good features, is just horrid to look at. If you think there's no way to combine the new technology with the old aesthetic, then you're just not trying hard enough.

    Try harder.

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  33. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!

    THE NEW CHANNELS ARE GROWING ON ME!!

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  34. Playlists are still non-functional in the new channels. I mean they just don't work. They don't launch a selected video in a new window and they don't allow for sequential auto-play on videos. I also haven't been able to watch a single video in the in-channel players. This "upgrade" is not even close to functional, why continue to ram it down our throats?

    Also, ilovedogsandharleys, don't spam praise for this broken shit. Anyone that is in favor of this forced change has been bought off or is a spam bot.

    Fuck you, YouTube. Fuck you very much.

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  35. iwantgizm0s - thanks for the feedback. Yeah, that playlist visual bug is on our list. No exact ETA right now, but we're aware. Thanks!

    TaurusOxford - looking good! Very old school. ;)

    LordAnarchy74 - nice!

    acenoctali - re: opening in a new tab, yeah, that's something we're looking at.

    username1 - yeah, watching in full screen is on our list. You CAN watch in high quality right now. HD is there too, though it doesn't grow the size of the player. Thanks for your feedback!

    japanlover97 - Thanks again for your passionate feedback and input, even if I don't think we're going to agree.

    scott, sikkwiitit - re: an option, we know that folks would like to be able to pick between the old version of channels and the new; though this option would be nice, the ongoing maintenance and cost to do this would be prohibitive while making the user experience across the site inconsistent. Our goal is to launch early and launch often (especially while in beta!), so even though some may not like the new channel design at first, the UI will evolve and improve over time and each iteration we do will reflect your feedback.

    DebonairUrbane - yeah, we're looking at a possible right click option. It's definitely a change to watch a channel's videos in the channel itself, but one that will make it easier for channel visitors to watch the channel owner's stuff; it lowers the barrier to seeing more. No worries about the watch page - it isn't going anywhere - it's still just an extra click (or, perhaps, a right click) away. And yeah, IE6 is a huge pain - I was reading today about how Digg is considering dropping support for IE6 in some key areas (Digg'ing, etc), which would be interesting. Problem with IE6 is that many folks using it know that the browser is outdated - but they're using it at work, and have no ability to upgrade.

    VideoLeadsOnline - Yeah, at some point we'll let you remove old themes. Probably best way to make a new theme is to pick an existing theme first as a starting point, then click "new theme," then go crazy.

    mark360videos - thanks for the bug report - we'll take a look.

    Anti-Porn Activist - thanks - yeah, we'll take care of the bugs - the team's making good progress so we don't think it'll be too long, but we'd like to take care of some of this stuff first.

    Selif - thanks for your feedback. We're thinking about allowing right-clicking into new tabs for video links.

    NecroVMX - thanks for your feedback. What do you think you'd like to see differently to improve the current aesthetic?

    ilovedogsandharleys - thanks!

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  36. GammaClipper - It sounds like you're saying that you can't get videos to play at all - we haven't heard of anyone currently having that problem. Can you give more info? What browser / OS are you using? Autoplay of videos in playlists should be working if you're looking at a particular playlist. And how are you trying to watch a video in a new window?

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  37. Well using FF3, with JS enabled (but NOT Java - this is tantamount to saying - hey guys, come plant a virus here - bad enough all the popups with JS enabled). If you click on either Favourites in the top bar, or in the side panel, NOTHING happens. Is the design intended that Favourites can no longer be seen ?

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  38. In the new channel design, "groups" have been omitted. What happens to the groups one has started and to the groups one is a member of? What happens to all the subscribers to groups?

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  39. new channel design has so much errors....please fix them...specially..in the channel information section(beta channel) the description option is not appearing,how can we change our old info...

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  41. I was only waiting for the Transparency option...Now that it's there I'm very happy of my new channel look!

    http://www.youtube.com/DessayBestSinger

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  42. Great, hopefully this will confuse the spammers on Wednesday. Now all you need is to allow use to change the amount of visible channel comments and recent activity notifications, show video lengths in the toolbar, allow full-screen videos and links to other 'sites, and if possible, allow YouTube RealTime to work with videos that you are watching in a channel.
    One more thing: any chance of being able to give thumbs up / down to comments? And could you make it possible for us to scroll through all subscribers and friends etc without leaving the page (and re-order these as well as videos). Thanks!

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  43. What I hate the most about the new channels are the loading times. My internet connection is pretty slow, so it takes 8 seconds for an old channel to load. But when I go to a new channels, it takes 25 seconds! So the loading time is three times longer than it used to be. This basically makes me unable to use channels anymore, as the loading time is so long. Of course I could just wait, but that's not my point. The point is that the new channels load very slowly. The new channels have many great features, but they're useless for me because of the loading times.

    Could you explain why you can't add an option between the old/new channels? If it's possible to create a site with hundreds of videos, why isn't it possible to choose between two different channel types? That just doesn't seem right...

    And why are the videos in one big list on the new channels? It's really annoying to scroll through them when there are many. It's much easier when there is a separate page for videos.

    I am not changing to the new channels until the loading time is shorter and the lag is gone. How can they be so slow anyway?

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  44. In the beta channels, will users be able to click on links when they are available in the channel description? and what about vlogs? I hope that's on your future to do list also :)

    http://www.youtube.com/ashfire06

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  45. I don't care when the new channel layout will be rolled out.
    MAKE IT OPTIONAL!

    Because I don't want it.

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  46. I have noticed that when you click more info on a channels shown video, the title and footer are scrolling, not the video description. Please fix this!

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  47. Uh..... Dude Brian People still don't want the beta channals even if all the bugs are fix. the best thing you can do is to keep it optional!!!!

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  48. You know you just postponed the death of youtube right? the blackouts are still going to go on, people are still going to hate the beta channals and you for forcing this on them and they are going to leave. people like Wiiloveit who only Kiss A will never understand that there will still be millions of people that want the beta channals optional. If you dont want your site to die i sugest you keep the beta channals optional. And using the date change to coufuse us will NOT WORK!!!

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  49. Read This please Brian!!!

    Must be a good idea to push the full release back a little. Channels are 88% perfect and now better than the old channels with transparency. If you could put igoogle tab and a group tab somewhere on the channels. Also have customization options on the video player like repeat video and ability to disable moving to next video. otherwise these channels are awesome.

    http://www.youtube.com/JW514

    I think my channel looks very cool. could you please add mine to the favorite new design list?

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  50. Another good feature would be if you have the grid view as default you could make it when your viewers click on a video it goes to the video page.

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  51. @Upload3123412: WE GET IT! You don't like the channels. Stop coming into every comment section to repeat the same thing over and over.

    The comments are meant for constructive criticism and advice on how to make the channels better if you dislike them, NOT for a massive bitch fest like you do all the time.

    Brian has been ignoring you for the past 10,000 times you and the other retards post bullshit of "You're gonna kill youtube, blah blah blah", so what makes you think he is going to listen to you the 10,001 time?

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  52. Brian, I see you've at least bumped back the day to take our channel designs, thank you. But I don't think you've gotten the overall sentiment of most YouTubers. We want to discover new people with similar interests through the related video tab on the play page. The play page is hidden in the new design. We want to laugh at goofy people that leave funny comments. Comments are hidden in the new design. We don't want the new design at all. It takes away or hides the features used most on YouTube. Videos should play on the play page with a related video tab RIGHT THERE IN THE PAGE with lots of videos from lots of different users. You say millions have switched to the new lay out, I say you've told them to switch and they never thought about it, then did as they were told, or you're including the new channels (that have no choice) in your count. I hope you'll come around to the right way of thinking and abandon Channel 2.0. The old layout works GREAT and doesn't need fixed. If you need, just ADD a place in the original page layout for advertisements. Most of us understand you've got bills to pay and that is how you pay them. The black out started early I'm told (I don't know I haven't been visiting Google or YouTube pages very much lately and no news is leaking out to other sources)...
    Good day.

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  53. NEW BUG:

    In the new channel title we are able to put in only 30 characters. That poses a problem when you want to describe or channel with a full sentence. In the old channel we are able to put in more than 30 characters in the channel_title.

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  54. I know you said you can't give us the option to use the old channel if we don't like the new one, but how is that, since it's optional to have the old or the new channels at the moment anyway? You should really listen to all the people who think this new channel is just stupid.

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  55. http://www.youtube.com/user/MeMyselfAndPi

    I'm having a problem with my channel banner. I just noticed that the new limit is 960px X 150px. But every time I try uploading an image that size, it just squishes it back to 75px. I tried going back to the old design, & then it brought it up the 150px. But it squished it again going to the new design.

    I've tried getting into the partner forums, but it keeps saying they don't have an account that matches MeMyselfAndPi with memyself3.14@gmail.com *Sigh*. & have am completely positive that the information is correct!

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  56. 2 HUGE but at the same time small bugs:

    1) Every time I get an Honor on my channel, the whole layout gets messes up and my custom background doesn't fit it anymore. I have a little "This background is made by and copyright to 0Yarko" at the very bottom, and every time I get an honor, it gets covered by the channel body so I have to remove things from my channel Description to make it normal again x__X it's very complicated to explain, but PLEASE make the body NON MOVING

    2)Sometimes when I click on "Videos" or "see all", it tells me "unknown playlist" or something along those lines.
    Please fix that as well.

    3) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Make that 256k limit for background at least 1M! WE DON'T LIVE IN THE DIAL UP ERA ANYMORE! My background for the beta channels is AWESOME, but I can't have it in full Resolution because of that stupid limit! Look how ugly and static it looks: http://www.youtube.com/user/0Yarko

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  58. Please add CD Support for Musicians

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  59. Why are URL links working in Youtube partner accounts but not in regular Youtube accounts? What's the hold up with that? Are you withholding this feature from regular users in 2.0 or what?

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  62. Brian, i don't know if you seen my bugs reports in the transparency post?
    here is a paste

    chrome PC is 1 or 2px lower than on all others
    but now, it's 8 px too high in FF mac and 1px too much to the right

    there is also 1px less height in ffmac between the ad and the rest thus again weir-ing the layout

    sorry for that many posts, i'm testing on all browsers to make sure the design works, so a come across a lot of tiny weeny bugs



    button align issues when already friend
    SC: http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1463/picture7mdt.png
    fiecof 3 mac 10.4.11



    BTW, i use firefox 3 on osx 10.4.11 and safari 4

    the align bug is only in safary, logged in or not, here is a Sc of safari: (too low) http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2349/picture2izz.png
    and the correct one from firefox: just ok http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3792/picture3vzr.png
    opera(too low): http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2703/picture4mds.png

    also notice how te arrow looks different in all 3, and the transparency is really uneven on all 3 (opera is 100% all the way)

    bonus IE6 on my old PC, not even working

    SC FF3 PC http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5990/picture5apw.png (colors are bad, its RDC)

    but the BG allign issue is HUGE


    thanks Brian

    the issue is: in the past you had http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=musicformachines&view=videos which was not ideal but at least had JUST the uploads, no bio, friends, subs, comments, so faster to load and right clickable to open many clips in many tabs to load them

    now we are stuck with this: http://www.youtube.com/user/muzik4machines#grid/uploads which is longer to load cause there is way more content to load(and most of it is not needed when you link from an external site (the embed also vanishad on all pages i had it...)

    i ask, because in the past i used to iframe the uploads page on my site http://muzik4machines.com/videos/index.html and it still looked pretty good, now its a stale blank background (could the playlists BG match the channel?) and when i embed the whole channle in the iframe, i end up with my header, your header, my banner THEN the videos almost halfway down, plus it loads the bio (again) and comments/subs etc

    maybe if there was just an embed code for the video navigator, THAT would be really cool as i could replace the playlist http://muzik4machines.com with the whole navigator (with the ad) on my front page (but i guess there is probably legal objections for that one, even tho the ads will show and all clips would be piped thru the navigator)
    anyway, jsut an idea, i really miss being able to have a page with only all uploads

    also the arrow is still not transparent nor is the box around comments, http://youtube.com/muzik4machines, i made the wraper white for showing, and look at the arrow edges too, really cropped out and difinately not transparent :)

    for the autoplay, it's ok, i was just wondering :)

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  63. @Upload3123412 said...
    hey funny guy, stop spamming the beta forum, go do that elsewhere, here is for bug reports

    they ignored you hundreds of times, and i hope they continue, 90% of the crybabies spammers are people with 0 uploads, they don't matter to them and IT IS GREAT that for once us content producers are put up in front of leechers that makes youtube a spamfest


    so youtube let the spammers win this round, hope they just ban them all before they can do their funny blackout (man i antcipate this day, 1000'2 of spamkids silenced, bandwidth for real users, clean comments, what to ask more?

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  64. Brian,
    You still haven't responded to me about the vlog option... It is available for the "old" youtube channel yet not for the beta version. Why?

    Also, I have been reading all the comments... most of them are NEGATIVE. To me, I don't mind the "old" channel. It does everything its supposed to do, unlike the beta which is more complicated and hard to navigate thru videos.

    Sometimes it's OK to listen to the people. I completely agree with conner. OPTIONAL is the best solution.

    I will be switching back to the old channels soon if the vlog option is not available.

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  65. cobaye and TaurusOxford What makes you think im and millions of commonts out there are spamers. on the video there are more and more new people comonting saying they want it optional! And it is being inorged by a hardheaded, twofaced, jerkoff that only listens to butt kissers. wile us out here just want it optional. and we say keep it optional because we know there is people like you out there that like these channals. of corce i dont like the beta channals and theres people out there that dont like them eather but there some people that do like them and geting rid of one channal layout can piss of the user that does not want that layout desine. that is why we are SCREEMING KEEP IT OPTIONAL! are you to happy that brian is forcing the beta channals on everybody? because that is what where pissed off about. Where not piss of about the beta channals where piss off because there forcing it on us! are you happy with that?

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  66. upload, because you are a spammer, and youtube know 80% of those(millions, make me laugs, not even 100 000) comments are from kiddos who registered 12 accounts just to spam (and not get their precious 0 ups i just favorite others clips banned cause they use racist, facist ways of expressing their distaste), i mean they have logs you know, they see when one IP registers 15 accounts in 5 minutes and logs back and forth between them to post spam

    i don't care if you don't like it, leave, same goes for facebook, myspace and any corporate site, they do what they want, not what a few leechers like you want, and especially not bending over in front of kids (like they semi-did here)

    you want it optional, PAY for the maintenance cost

    yes i'm happy, it looks better, functions better and overall is cooler to use, and if all spammers can just leave youtube on the 15th, well, it's even better, less shitty comments on videos, less shitty uploads of people raconting their lives, man, it will be the best day youtube had for years when all of you "0 uploads, i just leech off of other creations" people just close your (of no use) accounts and go spam another video site

    did facebook offered you a choice? no, and nobody left, they gained more users

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  68. Ok Brian so you doing this so you cant spend more monny right well if your going to cut of something please cut it of some where elece and not the channals. I know it cost less to mantane the beta channals but it will cause you even more if this gets acted on. why not tell everyone out there why your doing this like you explaned to me and sara?

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  69. I noticed a small glitch while scrolling down or up on the new channels. I've posted a screenshot below to demonstrate what happens. I use Firefox v3.5

    http://i31.tinypic.com/1z23vhe.jpg

    My channel is:
    http://www.youtube.com/blacktronic

    - Blacktronic

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  70. YESH!!! YESH!!!

    But no matter WHAT you do, I'm not using the new channels.

    Along with the remaining 90% of the community who weren't brainwashed by you guys.

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  71. Hi, I dont know if something similar was already told, but in Opera (9.64) if transparency is selected, the wrappers or the tabs disappear completely...

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  72. cobaye I never started spaming until this came and youtube is youtube not facebook. and facebook lost its tide when myspace came along. Im afrade the same thing is going to happend to youtube if they do this. Youtube is not going to be number one forever that i know but there speeding up the proses of them lossing there tide if they do this.

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  73. Hey Brian, an idea for you. Keep both channels going, but set up a monthly fee for the original channel for maintenance costs. I mean, Upload3123412 is obviously desperate to keep his original channel design, so i'm sure he would have no problem at all with paying you guys so he could keep it.

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  74. "Quadunit404 said...

    YESH!!! YESH!!!

    But no matter WHAT you do, I'm not using the new channels.

    Along with the remaining 90% of the community who weren't brainwashed by you guys."

    I think you got your numbers backwards. 90% of the community like the new channel or at least give helpful criticism for improving it.

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  75. Can you bring back the seperate pages for the videos/favorites/comments/playlists? Right clicking on the videos/favorites/playliststabs at the top of the channel ccould open these seperate pages, and these pages could open more seperate pages. The seperate comments page could be accessed by clicking on the number of comments, just like the old channel.

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  76. To be fair brian i have been a jerk of alot here... and im sorry for that but! I want to know can you cut off somthing elece other than the channals here on youtube because the people out thare screming give us an option will not stop and your going to keep hering about it. anyway here are some thing that will make the beta channals more well suted if you go thru with this

    2. more channal cuzstmisation options

    3. the choice to make the video that we put in front of our channal play automaticaly or not

    4.desine channal outside of channal.

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  77. What about the Video Log? We REALLY want it back!!! (Or at least I do...)

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  78. Hello Brian,

    Thanks for the compliment on my channel! :) Yet again, here's my glitch/suggestion list...

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    Current YouTube Channel Beta Glitches (in IE8 with Windows Vista)
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    1) When you click the “more info” link below the video description, the scrollbar that appears to allow you to scroll and read the full description has a glitch -- the text doesn’t scroll down.

    2) Okay this one is a little complicated and hard to explain... bare with me... Whenever I make any changes to my channel on any tab (Settings, Themes and colors, Modules), when I click save change, the spinning wheel pops up over the cancel and save changes button. When it's done saving, it goes back to my channel. Here's the glitch: If I go back to the tab, the wheel is still over the save changes and cancel button, preventing me from making any changes, and forcing me to refresh the page... Did you get that? If so, tell me if you're having the same glitch...

    3) The links in the channel description don't autolink -- it puts a space in them, which prevents them from being clicked.

    4) In the grid view, the Uploads and Favorites section the 9th and 10th rows overlap each other.

    5) When using full screen mode in IE8, the wrapper and module backgrounds disappear (except for the video area at the top). This is kind of annoying for me, because I prefer going to full screen (by pushing F11) in IE to edit my channel.

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    Suggestions for the YouTube Beta Channels
    ---------------------------------------------

    1) Along with the last login date, there could be an indicator on the channel that tells whether the user is online or offline (using YouTube, or not using YouTube).

    2) More transparency options for the module backgrounds (in the Color Palettes section) ; allowing the full 100% transparency instead of limiting it to 50%.

    3) The option to set how many channel comments you want displayed on your channel.

    4) A few more fonts would be nice, such as Comic Sans, Arial Bold, etc. :)

    5) Allow the option to reorder friends/subscribers/subscriptions.

    6) Allow the option to choose how many friends/subscribers/subscriptions you want to display, and the option to change the size of the profile pictures in these sections.

    7) Rearranging play lists, instead of the usual alphabetical order.

    8) The high quality/high definition buttons need to be replaced in the video player on the channels. Also, when you click these, the player could resize to the size for the quality setting.

    9) The full screen button needs to be replaced for the video player. When user’s click this, the player would go full screen.

    Thanks for making these channels so great! :) I've never been this excited about channels until now! :D

    Kevin Cooper
    http://youtube.com/cooperproductions08

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  79. These new channels should be optional! Its not like people are going to get mad and leave you tube because you made them optional. But it is possible people will get mad and leave if you don't. COMMON SENSE!

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  80. Hey Brian,

    Great job on the transparency! I spent all day messing with the different levels on my channel. The transparency on my channel makes it look great with my new background!
    Thanks,

    micronik95
    youtube.com/micronik95

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  81. Hello...I just have a few questions. First, I don't like the BETA design...at least, not yet. I am glad that the date has been pushed back to fix a number of concerns about YouTubers.

    My question is this: From what I hear, channel links aren't working yet...will this be fixed? I like to have links to different channels every now and then to channels I like or reccommend. Also, I've also heard that channel descriptions are limited to 30 characters. Will that be upgraded too? To see the links and my channel description please go to:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Vysethedetermined

    Also, my next questions aren't really that important, but just things I am curious about. If users can't have animated backgrounds, will we be able to have animated avatars (animated .gif)? I understand that some animated backgrounds were over-the-top as far as size and other issues (though I've never used them personally). I don't mind a size limit, but if it is possible, could they be limited to something like 150KB or something. Again, it's not important, but I thought I'd ask.

    Take care.

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  82. I've got an idea. Since so many people like and dislike the beta channel.

    Why don't we a VOTE over YouTube between the "old" channel and the new beta channel.

    This will solve all problems

    Check out my channel at
    www.youtube.com/TTAHProductions

    Please leave comments on my design. That would be much appreciated

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  83. I just noticed something: The new design is missing the Channel Embed code!

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  84. TryThisAtHome, you know damn well that would never work. The spammers would just make a million alt accounts to try and put the votes against the new channel, and do you really think Youtube is gonna scrap the new channel now that it is on the verge of completion, especially considering the only ones complaining now are a bunch of whiny babies who have done nothing to contribute?

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  85. i do not like this beta. it is not only ugly but not as functional as the old layout. do not force us to switch. unless you plan on actually shrinking your userbase, i suggest you do away with the mandatory part of the update.

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  87. Is there a way you can also make the titles on the new channels a little longer than what you can put on the beta right now because everything I want to put in the title on beta won't fit.

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  88. I like beta, don't hear the people saying beta suchs

    Beta Rocks

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  89. TaurusOxford don't get me wrong, I do like the new beta channels.... By doing a VOTE it will shut them up once and for all over this matter.

    To avoid spammers making a million alternate accounts, all you have to do is ONLY allow accounts registered before July 11, 2009 be able to VOTE.

    It's that simple!

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  90. make it june 1st, as SO many fake accounts were registered just to protest as soon as the sekrit link went out

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  91. Push it back to NEVER! Most people want to keep their old channel design. The Beta design stinks! Let us keep our old format!!

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  92. are you ever going to fix that back ground glitch where the back ground right of imediate view(anything you see if you use the bottom scroll bar to go to the right)is white no matter what you do to it. It messes up the back ground especially in transparency view.

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  93. I agree with AJ and Roger. When are the URL links going to be fixed on the 2.0 channels? How hard could it be to get that working if you have them working on partner channels already?!? And it's a good thing you guys pushed the date back because the functionality on beta is freakin horrendous. You guys still have some of the same problems that you had WEEKS ago.

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  94. Maybe this has been asked already if so please disregard...

    Will the URL format for watching a video under the "discussion, related and more" view (ie. the old style view) still have the same cgi parameters? That is will it still be /watch?v=video_id and for playlists /view_playlist?p=playlist_id ... and so on, will these parameters maintain their current format?

    I ask because my videos have links to other videos or playlists in the descriptions and
    I need to know ahead of time if those will become invalidated when the switch occurs. It may take several days to re-edit nearly 300 video descriptions with the correct URL's and parameters.

    Thank you,
    - Alan

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  95. I think you misunderstood me TryThisAtHome. I know you like the beta channels, and your idea is good on paper, but you're forgetting one fact. The whiners would not shut up even if the votes were in favour of the beta channel design.

    They would continue to complain about them, and having a vote for it would probably just make it worse cause then they would start up bullshit of "Youtube faked the voting results for favour of the beta channel".

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  96. Well ok
    You said their would be a few new things
    I'm very curious about what new things your adding. I'm gonna change my channel to the beta design now. And I hope the date is soon. By the way I don't know if you were the ones who fixed it but now the beta channels are faster on my computer. If you did then thanks

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  97. Finally! I did it! Check out my design! http://www.youtube.com/valsartdiary

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  98. Check out These Awesome Channels!
    www.youtube.com/xTaylor2919x

    www.youtube.com/mynamehereornot

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  99. Brian or whom it may concern,

    There is a problem with the "Wrapper Text Color". Can you give us the choice to select the wrapper text color for the text above and below the video seperately? currently if I change the wrapper text color, it'd change the text color for both the text above and below the video, which can create some issues when you play around with wrapper color and also the background image.

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  100. I don't like any change in format. It is just more corporate fascism, forcing us to conform to a set of rules and protocols that you've created, rather than allowing us the freedom of choice. Art is free expression, never to be dictated by SOP, or made to conform to the dimensions of someone's corporate box. And this comming so closely on the heels of everyone's videos being ruined by WMG corporate nonsense? I smell something very fishy here...
    "You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists"
    --Abbie Hoffman

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  101. YES PLEASE Make the Beta channels optrions!! Because I really don't like it... please don't become facebook and just change on us...

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  102. you still haven't given us the option to keep our old disigen... c'mon, the old channel IS me, please let us keep it...

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  103. Hey Brian, for some reason I can't found how to change my featured vid, help?

    Oh, and make the channels optional.

    Thanks! :)

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  104. Not to be a hater but I dis-like the new beta channel. I'm loving the old one and hatg the beta. It's just a design that's not cut out for some people. I don't think you should make everyone have the new beta channel. Just let us pick which one since some of us don't like it. Thanks. (Please Take This Info)

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  105. Brian - I am running IE7 on Windows Vista. I can't find a single "direct-to-video" or other link that permits me to open videos on the new channels in new windows directly. I have to first bring them up in the non-functional channel player and then launch from the title. When attempting to find and select a video this is both difficult and protracted. In my opinion the Beta channel isn't close to release-worthy.

    The exact process that I have to follow is this:
    1) Open user page
    2) Open playlist tab
    3) Open playlist
    4) Select video
    5) Select video again from the non-functional in-channel viewer sidebar
    6) Select video title to launch video page in same window, right click doesn't work

    When I finally get the video page I want to watch there is no playlist available. There's nothing. It's just gone. These new channels are badly broken and somehow I don't see you giving a flying fuck as to whether the myriad issues that thousands of the users that made this site a success are no doubt having before imposing this change on all of them.

    It used to be that if I wanted MySpace I'd go to MySpace and if I wanted videos I'd go to YouTube or Revver. Now it seems that YouTube is attempting to become MySpace by focusing on channel design and restricting access to the content that made this site great. Oh, and pack as many ads as possible into the partner channels because YouTube hasn't made a fucking dime in profit since the Google acquisition.

    "GammaClipper - It sounds like you're saying that you can't get videos to play at all - we haven't heard of anyone currently having that problem. Can you give more info? What browser / OS are you using? Autoplay of videos in playlists should be working if you're looking at a particular playlist. And how are you trying to watch a video in a new window?"

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  106. I just had a great idea for what you should rename this site following the channel switch.

    LCARS. Fans of Star Trek know it as the Library Computer Access and Retrieval System but for NewTube a more fitting acronym would be Little Content Albeit Rich Styling.

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  107. How about we have a button that says "Revert! I want my old Channel Back!" ? :-)
    Pleeease! My channel looks excellent in the original design. :(

    My account:
    http://www.youtube.com/yearofthe

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  108. are the old playlists "hidden" by default in the new channels? because now i can't browse other people's playlists anymore.
    And also, open links in new windows is like, basic standard internet usability; why it's absent in the new channels?

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  109. omg the new accounts dont let me put any things about me and i want people to know about me.. thats the only problem

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  110. oh cmon guys guys can you let us use background images from our own sources? the 256kb size limit is getting on my nerves. if you want quality channels then we need quality bg images. take a look at http://www.youtube.com/protourtennis to see what i mean

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  111. Bugs on July 13th:

    1)
    It's impossible to scroll down the video description for a featured video on the new beta channel if you use IE. Some of the text is just not moving, it just "hangs there". Not a problem with Mozilla.

    2)
    If I use annotations at the end of a video, why can't I make a link to my new channel front page which will THEN play a playlist? One of the new features will be to have people "watching your playlist within your own design".

    3)
    Make if possible for other than commercial partners to have an extra link or two on the channel page.

    Yours
    6funswede

    http://www.youtube.com/6funswede

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  112. I don't know if you're aware of this glitch, so I'm sorry if it's nothing new to you, but in my channel I'm started to have several playlists. Now, some of them are starting to look "off" when I click the Playlists sections and I scroll down through the list. They go through the right of the module and barely see half of the "cover" image.

    Hope this made any sense.

    Thank you.

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  113. @Try This At Home & TaurusOxford: You two are being retarded idiots. As regular YouTubers, or "whiners", we make up 95% of the YouTube user database. So if you're gonna side with YouTube while the rest of us leave, what can we do? Have fun helping Brian destroy YouTube. Maybe all we "whiners" can do is shut up and leave. If that's what the case is, then don't say I didn't warn you.

    P.S. Why the heck would we make a million alternate accounts to show our hatred of the beta channels?! That's the worst theory anyone could EVER come up about this. You're just trying to get other people to think "Hey, maybe someone IS making a million alternate accounts to show their hatred of the beta channels!"

    P.P.S. @ Brian: If you don't "agree with us", then we're leaving YouTube. Have fun destroying YouTube.

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  114. japanlover97, i'm sure I can speak for Brian and many others here when I say good fucking riddance.

    Oh, and we'll have much more fun trying to improve Youtube without you around.

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  115. @japanlover97: I'm sorry to say it, but you really are a bit naive.. don't you see that this always happens when something changes in commonly used internet applications. A lot of people fear change, but the way in which you are overreacting.. it's a tad pathetic really. Oh and you're saying everyone is gonna leave YouTube, you know how people are, talk is cheap.. at the end of the day, you'll be one of the only ones really leaving and the rest will get used to it in less than a week. Stuff like this won't destroy YouTube..

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  116. hey brian
    has anyone looked at my channel yet as it is still totally broken ,i have tried a number of browsers FF3,IE8,Safari and Google Chrome all to no avail ,i have had my friends in the u.k. and abroad access my account to check it wasnt me with the same result i have accessed their account with no problems what soever proving that its youtube at fault ,these so called wonderful beta channels have totally ruined my partner channel(rasputin37) i can neither upload,edit,use branding options or use edit channel. i have sent bug reports. i cant even watch vids with FF3! if my channel is unrecoverable i expect the youtube team to do the decent thing and allow my to open a new channel with instant partner status seeing as your grand update buggered it in the first place .
    yours a very irate and fed up partner....

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  117. We're ALL fed up. Except for SOME people. We don't have to take this, y'know! There are plenty of other video-sharing sites that we can use instead of CrapTube!

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  118. Please make our channels optional. So some people can have beta, and some can have our old ones. Dont force it on us! A good amount of people like beta, and u can get ur stupid money from them. But let others who dont like it have our old ones.

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  119. Won't add video to playlists anymore. Am using Firefox 3.5 with NoScript disabled & the problem still persists. Keep up the good work guys; transparency was a nice bonus.


    I'd push it back a further 2 weeks, personally. During which time us beta testers can give you more feedback and you can prioritize what are bugs and what are requests.


    To the beta testers: try to break the channel anyway you know how. This is what they *want* us to do, so that they can fix any bugs or potential exploits. Do eeeeeet!


    Peace,
    -l.

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  120. another bug~!!! the featured video and all its right hand stuff ie, videos playlists and favourites (the more important stuff) are not appearing! anyone else having this problem? and how do i fix it? i'm chansherly212, send me a youtube pm if you know, if anyone here's kind enough :-)

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  121. PLEASE MAKE THE BETA CHANNEL OPTIONAL!!

    Im pretty sure its awesome, but some of us like our old channels because its personalized the way we want it. as youtubers, shouldnt we have the right to choose which channel we would like?? please let us choose!!

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  122. I can't revert back to the previous style I had before. I think the new style is obnoxious and it's harder to access my Favorites this way (which is something I do all the time).

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  123. With the new channel design, you can no longer hover the cursor over a video's title or thumbnail to view a tooltip with the video's full title. That'll be a major problem for anyone viewing the owner's channel.

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  124. I really would like to keep my old channel style and see some improvements on that. It would be nice to have a choice of more Playlists and more room on my front page. I am not fussy on going to the new Beta thing since whatever I have tried in a Beta has never been something I liked in here or anywhere else. I think Beta is always going to be a buggie thing or it would much more prevalent anywhere. It's not a cheaper thing is it? Thanks for pushing back the date too. That was a good plan.

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  125. I would prefer it if the links to videos in the new profile would be actual links that open the separate video page. Maybe there could be an extra button for each video to play the video embedded in the channel page?

    That is currently what annoys me most at the new design, I have to click twice before seeing the full page with all the related videos, comments, etc.

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  127. Alright, 'MrBrianGlick', why do you keep denying how awful the new channels are?! And how can you not expect people not to insult you with those horrid new beta channels?!

    Forget it, we don't need this putrid rat hole anymore. We'll just leave and find some other video-sharing website. From the day the beta channels are enforced, the new slogan will be; "YouSuck: Go Screw Yourself."

    So, keep denying it, Brian. Insults will come flying like an airplane to your YouTube accounts. So listen to us or forever hold your piece.

    And again i say:

    HOW CAN YOU FREAKIN' NOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO INSULT YOU WHEN YOU CREATED THOSE PUTRID NEW CHANNELS??!!

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  128. And furthermore (ignoring TaurusOxford), with NO due respect, most of the channels on the "Our Favorite New Channel Designs" list look butt-ugly, are difficult to navigate, and slow down my computer. Muzik4machines' channel looks ugly and bulky, not to mention that it crashed my browser. The White House's channel looks OK, but it could be eons better with the classic design. Slyth66's channel took forever to load. I would love to list the reasons why the beta channel sucks but I already posted them in another post.

    There are literally a million of us who hate the beta channel. And we're not gonna stand being dictated by the YouTube staff, and yet I'm arguing all by myself here with a bunch of 2.0-lovers. SOMEONE HELP ME!!!

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  130. @ cobaye: Let me quote your message:

    "stop pulling numbers out of your ass if you don't know, you are ridiculous, 95% of users are not viewers, and they know it, you are a minority of kiddos who THINK they are important enough to have a weight, YOU DON'T, go away, never come back, youtube quality will be improved 10folds"

    Umm... excuse me?! Are you saying that regular YouTubers don't matter and are not "important enough to have a weight"? Every single YouTuber matters the same. Partners and sponsors aren't the only ones who matter, you know! And learn to spell 'tenfold', you little twerp!

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  131. Can you please back me up on my arguments, kevin?

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  132. SUGGESTION 1: Can you please add upload DATE INFORMATION to the playing video information in player view?? This would be great, thanks. SUGGESTION 2: Can you please add video duration time to the thumbnails?? Opinion: old channels are better, but if you need to save costly bandwidth using beta, I am for the new channel design. I know YouTube is losing a HUGE amount of money right now. Good luck!

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  133. Well, cobaye, here's what i say to that:

    うーんと... ...失礼ですか! YouTubers問題は、定期的なものではなく、 "十分な重さ"を持ってすることが重要ではないということですか。同じ問題を一つ一つYouTuber 。パートナーやスポンサーだけでは問題ではないですよね!と10倍のは、少し見下げたやつのスペルを覚える!

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  134. LOL how mature, unable to post your profanity in english, faker? too affraid to get banned?

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  135. あなたに悪態をバカのすべての時間をしている。また、私はほとんど英語知っている。

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  136. why do all these people suddenly like the beta? it sucks and they make firefox mess up

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  137. @ moses2112: I know, right?

    P.S. Will you back me up on my arguments with beta channel-lovers?

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  138. but WHICH arguments, all you do is whine, have nothing to show and insult users and admins all the time, i didn't see any arguments, just lousy spam, you NEVER helped with ANY bug, you just spend your workless days crying on a blog instead of i don't know, making a cool BG or even better making a video for yourself instead of leeching others
    come on, get a life you 12 years old whiner

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  139. Brian,

    Can you give us an update on the channel type (director channel, musician channel, comedian channel, etc.)? In the old channel there was a grey bar at the bottom of the profile picture that displayed what channel type you had. It is not on the new channel.

    There is no point to have a director channel. You really get nothing extra compared to a regular channel. Maybe you should keep all the other channel types and get rid of the director channel or keep the director channel but add more features to it.

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  140. I posted several bugs in the other blog entries, cobaye. And you're right, I will stop 'whining". I'll just take it to the next level.

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  141. Brian,

    If there is an option in Blogger to limit how many comments a person can make within a certain period of time, you should turn it on to prevent all these spammers from posting too many comments at a time. Some people are spamming the same message over and over that the beta channel sucks.

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  142. You can't even lie properly. You say you are going to leave, and yet you stick around trying to get anyone possible to help you bitch more at the beta channel and to ridicule us.

    Also, if there are a million youtube users who hate the channel, where are they? I don't think i've even seen a hundred unique users complain about the beta channels. How many more numbers are you going to pull out of your ass?

    Also, how pathetic can you be when you have to swear at us in a different language so we can't read it? Also, there's a thing called babelfish, So I can get the gist of what you are saying anyway.

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  143. I agree with what N/A said. The new channels should say what type of channel you have. (guru, reporter, musician, director, comedian...etc)
    And when you make the new channels say what type of channel they are, please don't use the old gray channel type labels. Please redesign the channel type label and make it look better.

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  144. Why is there no RSS feature included in the new channels? YouTube should include that as a feature within the subscribe service, so that subscriber would have the option of bing updated about new video via their favorite RSS reader.

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  145. i personally think it's better without theose labels, that way we are all equal, and i SO don't care that there is no label to tell i'm a musician, actually, i like it better, so people have no pre-conceptions

    also, please put an anti flooding mechanism to stop people like kevin and japanloser97 to spam this blog where some of us work out bugs (and you tell my design is ugly, with your stolen pic as a repeating BG, please, show us your talent japan (and insult people in english, it's not a japanese blog here)

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  146. Just to clarify. I did not say that I want or not want those channel type labels. I said that Youtube should get rid of only the director channel or add features too it. Keep all the other channel types.

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  147. Brian,

    This is an update from a bug report I made regarding the bar (bar with settings, themes and colors, modules) at the top of the page being too wide vertically because the revert button wrapped to a second line.
    I have IE8. Today I noticed that when the compatibility view is turned on, the revert button wraps to a second line. When the compatibility view is turned off, the bar looks normal.

    -N/A (aka: youtube.com/movie3891)

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  148. Brian,

    This is an update regarding the grid view glitch where you click on the grid view button, then click on a video thumbnail from the grid view and then it takes you back to player view but nothing happens.

    I have IE8.

    I am not sure if this will help to solve the problem but I discovered soemthing today and am posting it just incase it helps.

    I played around with the compatibility view button under "Tools" and discovered something. I will list step by step below what buttons I clicked. This will be exactly what I did. Do not assume that I click anything in between steps.

    1.) Went to my channel
    2.) Click on grid view button
    3.) Selected a video by clicking on it.
    4.) Takes me to player view but nothing happens
    5.) Went to "Tools" and clicked on "compatibility view".
    6.) Immediately after clicking on "compatibility view", the player loads the video I selected in grid. Doesn't play the video but the video that I selected has loaded and ready for me to click on the play button on the player.
    7.) Went back to grid view and selected another video.
    8.) Takes me to player view but nothing happens.
    9.) Clicked on "compatibility view".
    10.) This second video I selected in grid view loads in the player view and ready for me to click play for me to play the video.

    Hopefully I explained this clearly. If not, let me know and I can create a video for you.

    -N/A (aka: movie3891).

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  149. Give us an easy option to open videos from the upload and favorites list in a new browser window without clicking on them, open the video player menu and select it there. it just takes 3 times more mouse clicks and much more time.

    It is also very very hard to keep orientation in the uploads list when there are many videos inside, let's say 100. The old option to have pages with 20 videos on it is much more user friendly. I'm currenty planning to use your api to program my own youtube user interface which doesn't depend on your opinion of functionality...which I don't share.

    How about the comments on a video? Where are the categories of favorites. I just don't know where to click to find all this. On the old channels everything was clear, a little more scrolling but easy to find what you want. The new design? Packed with too much information with click on options, not enough space to see any category that way you have a good overview of it.

    So, if you really want to annoy hundereds of thousand youtubers, enforce the new design. If you want happy users, let us a choice how to see a channel, old fashion or new one.

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  150. Could we also have the ability to reorder our Friends/Subscribers too please? That would be wonderful!

    www.youtube.com/user/SoldierHawke

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  151. Watching my favourites is all what I do in youtube. That is also how I find new videos. Now, new channels makes thinks so hard, for me. New channels looks fine, but to me, this is not a good thing. Atleast I can watch all my favourites... I still dont get it, why do we all have to change old channel to new channel? Why didn't we have a choice?

    Well, all this needs is to get used to these new channels... :) I hope I'll find a new way to search videos and at the same time watch favourites *huff*

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  152. PLEASE give option !!!

    I don`t want Beta channel!!!

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  153. Some people wants the profile information at the top. This would make peoples channels inconsistent. I suggest that you make the profile picture at the top of the page clicakble. When it is clicked, it scrolls the page down to your profile information section.

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  154. Brian

    Wish List For Beta

    Playlists
    1. In grid view could we have the option to have the playlists aliened vertically (like the old channel when you click "See All") on the left going down, this gives a clean layout and plenty of room for the lists titles & info to be read (we have 36 playlists of YT history that is a very popular part of our channel)

    2. Be ale to have playlists in alphabetical order!.
    It use to be that way, but has been jumbled the last 3 months in the old design.

    Background Image Limit.
    Could we raise the 256k image limit?
    Many people use widescreen - large res monitor settings now.
    256k is not enough.


    Grid View as default Option (if this is going to happen)

    1. In Grid View, could the profile block be in the upper left corner (like in the old)?.

    2. Could we have the option to sort playlists, favorites, Videos & comments in Grid view (like in the old)?.

    3. A option to have the video player or not in Grid view would be nice too.


    Advance settings
    1. Bring back the color palette from the old channel (more colors)

    2. More transparency for the module backgrounds

    vlog
    1. PLEASE !!

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  155. Have a setting in account settings where to show the profile description when you go to a channel page. Either at the top or where it is now.

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  156. Brian,
    After browing various channels and using the search feature on the channels, I have a feature that I really want. In the search results using the "search uploads", the date that the video was uploaded needs to be under the video thumbnails. For example, I was on someones channel and I used the search uploads to find a specific video from about two years ago. It would have made it faster for me to find if the search results also contained the date uploaded.

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  158. For the last time, MY YOUTUBE USERNAME IS NOT JAPANLOVER97!!! You're trying to act like you're stupid, huh, Muzik 4 Machines? Well, quit it.

    Last comment I'll post here for awhile...

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  160. Why does the new beta design have to disable hyper links in my bio info. It adds a space in between them so they don't work. Are they scared of losing traffic to linking off youtube? Either way it's counter intuative to social networking.
    I have youtube as my main base because I can branch off from here onto my other web accounts. I'm not sure how to deal with this honestly. I have relied on this since I joined and I hope it will come back with the fixes.
    Sincerely concened, DJ Rolling Paper

    www.youtube.com/user/daylife905

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  161. I think bringing back that box which had the recent activity of your contacts would be a great idea. I remember a lot of people whining when it went. It was a great tool for letting people know what you were doing and vice versa. Why did they get rid of that? bandwidth?

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  162. You know, you're just fueling the fire by arguing back.

    Those who like the channels, continue to give feedback reports.

    Those who don't, you can let your opinion be known, just don't be so disrespectful about it.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    I'm really getting sick of seeing nothing in these comments anymore except for a select few arguing back and forth, with the occasional quality bug report.

    Seriously. Get over yourselves.

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  163. The autoplay don't work when I use audioswap or i-tunes music,are you gonna fix that also?????
    I really wanna know,I hope you answer me and fix that,than I like the beta channels,it's the reason I still use my old channel,thanks and greets from the Netherlands,Rico.

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  164. In my opinion, the new channels are mostly eye-candy. I don't care about what my channel looks like (that's why it has no background or colors), I care about how it works. The new channels are really slow to load, but they don't work as well as the old ones. That's why I hate them.

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  165. Brian,

    I made a comment above on July 13, 2009 1:07 PM regarding the grid view glitch and listed the steps. It is currently 8:06PM Easterm Time (5:06PM blogger time?) and the grid view now works, both with compatibility view turned on and off. Kind of slow to load the video but it works. I assume you must have fixed it between then and now.

    -N/A (aka: youtube.com/movie3891)

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  166. For those who don't like the channel, rather than trolling the site, you should make some suggestions here rather than being unhelpful and complaining. The team creating the channel has done a great job.

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  169. Gah, posted twice in response to the spammers, then thought better of it. Not feeding the trolls.

    I'm curious about the channel types as well. I had a director's channel with the old style, and didn't see any difference between that and a regular channel. I'm wondering if we'll still be able to choose a channel type, and, if so, what each type entails?

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  170. @Glamrod: Director type used to give you a longer time limit for videos, but I think Youtube gave that up. That really needs to come back, especially for people who make a lot of videos and are somewhat hampered by the 11 minute limit.

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  171. Brian, I mentioned that the loading of the video was slow after clicking on a video in grid view. It is no longer slow. I think it was just my internet connection.

    The Quintessential Glamrod, you can always change your channel type and then change it back to director. Try it out. Go to your account page and click on edit channel.

    TaurusOxford, thats what I thought too about the time limit but couldn't remember. I think they shortened it to 10 minutes after they started the YouTube partner program. Now there is really no difference between the Director channel type and the YouTuber channel type. I just changed my channel type back to YouTuber a few days ago.

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  172. Hey Brian this is just me Clarfiying something you said before , You did say the channel description links will be avalible soon right?

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  173. yes he did, many times

    also, 256 k is a bit small, make it 512, my BG looks all 1995 http://youtube.com/themilfshakers

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  174. I use Pinnacle Studies Ultimate version 12 to edit and post videos onto youtube, and when I convert my channel to BETA then try to upload my video off of Pinnacle it doesn't upload. It always says theres an error. So I have to switch back to the original version and upload.

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  175. Thanks for the info regarding the director's channel, guys. I just tried changing it to YouTuber then back to Director and didn't see a difference. But the videos I upload are all under 10 minutes so I guess it wouldn't make a difference in my case. Though I am working on a project that will cut it very close to the 11 minute mark, so it would be nice to have that function back.

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  176. Sarah, it has been said many times already that making the new channel optional is not possible due to the cost of maintaining both channels.

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  177. i may just be missing it, but what happened to the comment feature when you are watching a viedo on somes channel? I have viewed several peoples channels and wanted to comment on a video and there was no way to do it.

    Thanks for any feedback.
    :)

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  178. I changed my mind
    It would be really great if you added all the new features on the Beta Channel and kept the old channels. There are some partners that don't like the design.

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  179. Should the subscriptions, subscribers, and friends modules have grid view also?
    Note: I would not like to see the grid view button throughout the channel so if grid view is added for these modules, just keep the "see all" button but rather than taking people to a new page, it would show the grid view like the videos.

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  180. Hi~ The new beta channels are not working on Google Chrome. okease fix that. Also, I would like the new channels to be optional.

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  181. Can you allow us to edit the css or something, to say fill the full wrapper if we wanted to adjust the height of a box, as in my channel right now has a gap from the left sidebar to the right sidebar content on the bottom, and I'd like it to be space free from the bottom to the next content area, but kind of hard to get it exact

    http://youtube.com/lordreinhart

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  182. Hey Brian!
    I think the YouTube channels are great!
    I will NOT be participating in the proposed YouTube blackout, as I think they are being immature about this :-)

    My channel looks great!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/xcelloxcellox

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  183. Please to not force this change on us. Please give us a choice. I have made a video about this issue on my channel www.youtube.com/GrahamAndFriends
    The video is called "Beta Channel: Give Us A Choice".
    Why youtube, do you want to force this on us, and upset so many of your loyal users?

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  184. Brian,

    I don't know if you can fix this or not. Its not a bug but just an annoyance.
    This is regarding channel navigation.
    Lets say I'm on any website. In this example, lets say I'm on the YouTube search results page. I click on someone's username and it takes me to their channel. I browse videos using the grid view button. After watching a few videos, I want to get back to the YouTube search results.
    So I click the browser's back button. Here is where the annoyance starts. I have to click the back button, not once, twice, or three times, but many times before it takes me to the search results page (or any page I was on prior to visiting a channel). If something can be done about this, it would make navigation much better.

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  185. GrahamAndFriends,
    Because maintaining two channels would be too expensive.

    Also, YouTube, please don't give in to all these people wanting the old channel back.
    We've spent months providing suggestions and reporting bugs and you've worked on this channel. It would have been a waste to give in and keep the old channel or start over. The new channel is great.

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  186. Custom ordering, I wish to choose the videos to recommend to my viewers and I think the layout has too many words, I wish to have more thumbnails displayed without scrolling but not at the compromise of the featured video.

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  187. I have converted several channels to the new design. One of the advantages is the new playlists for my published videos, which will play with "my own channel design" around them. But why can't I add this url as a playlist address when I use annotations in a video? And can you fix it so that the "more info/video description" for a featured video on a channel works for BOTH IE and Mozilla?

    Yours,
    6funswede

    This new playlist will NOT be accepted as a playlist with annotations:

    http://www.youtube.com/6funswede#play/user/1C68974C982CBA68/0/CgASBVMyVFI

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  188. It was supposed to be "blackout day" today. But it's pointless now and will fail. I think the blackout is a stupid idea. You still haven't responded to my comments in eariler blogs Brian. I want to know if you can put group and Igoogle tabs in the betas. and video player settings for the video player. I also wonder if you can make more color options for channel themes, I don't like the dark blue much. Having more color options would solve this though. please respond. These are the only things I really need. Everything else is perfect.

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  189. Take a look about this site that could use browsers to look other sites.
    http://browsershots.org/http://www.youtube.com/mysteryguitarman

    This profile had been changed to current BETA, but even Firefox 3.0 couldn't show at all the videos there. As you see on that images, the seeking bar for the videos is under the image and couldn't show a lot of videos. Tomorrow it could be changed, but, had you at least tried which is the user watching desire? This is a horrorful BETA, why don't try to make it better and then let us try it?

    And, by the way, why I couldn't write a comment with my Youtube account instead of this from Google?

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  190. Hi Brian, may I contribute my mite, too? :-)

    Maybe you should post somewhere a *brief* manual for the channels? For example, I see some people here want more colours, while in fact you can have whatever colour, if you just know its hex triplet. You know, like a little user-friendly cookbook for browsing, for designing a channel, with some tips, and so on. *Not* like the "YT Help" which looks like written by Microsoft.

    Would it be possible in the channel video player, like now we have "more info", to also have "show comments" and "view related videos"? So that you can see them without leaving the channel?

    There really should be a "view fullscreen" button on the channel player. Especially now with so many HD videos.

    The possibility to right-click > open in a new window would be nice, too.

    Could there be an option to make the "Recent activity" and "Channel comments" have set dimensions? When I upload a video, it has a long description, when I become friends, it is just one line. I guess it could be scrollable?

    And please don't forget about the bug with overlapping playlists in non-grid view.

    Please answer. If what I propose wouldn't be possible, I'd like to know why :-)
    Thx.

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  191. >:o

    Why the hell is there gonna HAVE to to change to the new layout! I love my OLD one and the new channels were only cool when they were a secret X-(

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  192. Please make this change optional! I don't want them at all! They are very jumbled together and I hate them! :(

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  193. seriously, 256 is a JOKE,
    you yourself state the BG should be at least 2000x2000 pixels at 72 DPI, it take at least 512k to get anything more than plain colors(max4)
    please fix this ASAP, my BG looks like a dog shit from the 90's downgraded for 14,4 modems

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  194. There's currently a serious bug on the new channels that makes them unusable - I hope it's temporary. Whenever I try to browse my channel videos, I get redirected to http://www.youtube.com/profile .

    My channel:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/LaukkuTheGreit

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  195. and put a damn scrollbar in the comments it destroys ANY kind of matching layout, same for the honnors, make it FIXED length with scrollbars, i want the layout to STAY STATIC like it did in the old one, we already have a tiny 256k for the BG, can you at least help us make it look good instead of making it look awfull with resizing
    http://youtube.com/themilfshakers

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